Tradebridge360 SMSF?

Discussion in 'Superannuation, SMSF & Personal Insurance' started by ablewilling, 20th Nov, 2012.

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  1. ablewilling

    ablewilling New Member

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    Hi there

    Has anyone had any experience in setting up a SMSF with Tradebridge360?

    What they tell me over the phone all sounds good, but I do have only around $11,500 in my Sunsuper fund.
    Their idea is to rollover my Sunsuper funds into my own SMSF (setup costs etc. taken from that $11,500) then I purchase an "Options selection program" which will then advise which options on the ASX to be purchased/sold and they say they can give me a 60% return after all costs.
    All costs include Auditing, accounting, purchase of Options program.

    Is this one of those "Sounds too good to be true" type of programs?

    Any advice would be most welcome. Thanking you in advance.

    Ablewilling
     
  2. jeffery85

    jeffery85 Active Member

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    Save your money don't take on that head ache just yet for that little amount of money. Someone is just trying to sell you something without looking at if its in your best interest i think. (i could be wrong and i hope i am).

    Look at a Semi Managed Fund e.g. Australian super platform you can buy and sell shares just like buying and selling them yourself in real life.

    You can access there advise services and research platforms for free or a limited fee.

    You can participate if dividend reinvestments

    All trustee & reporting responsibilities are maintained and you have the same controls just about as a SMSF

    anyway just my thoughts but lets face it the money you are going too pay setting this up is better invested on the ASX in your interests rather then it used on administration outlays.

    Cheers

    Jeffery
     
  3. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Good gawd. Only $11,500 in super and they are suggesting a SMSF?

    What are the set up costs? yearly running costs amount to about $2,000. That would be 20% of the fund.

    ASIC should hear about this. ASIC have been complaining about people with $150,000 in super being talked into SMSFs.
     
  4. ablewilling

    ablewilling New Member

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    Hi guys and thanks for your responses.

    I rang ASIC, but they told me I need to speak to APRA. I then ring APRA and they told me I should report it to the ATO.

    It seems I got the wrong people to speak to, as the only one who showed any sympathy at all was the one from APRA. The others just showed typical public service attitudes. I know they are not all like that, I just got the wrong ones this time.

    But, Tradebridge360 did get me thinking. I have not mentioned to you guys that I am at the ripe old age of (nearly) 58, and that paltry sum I have in my super is not going to do me much good at all.

    So I will take a closer look at Australian Super, and also look into SMSF's like eSuper. Lets face it, I have got to do something,,,,,,,,,,LOL.

    Thanks again good peoples.

    Ablewilling
     
  5. moderatortb360

    moderatortb360 New Member

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    Hi Ablewilling,

    Just to clarify for you and the other forum members to dispel any misunderstanding.
    You are legally entitled to setup a SMSF with any reasonable amount.
    Yes the setup costs can be reimbursed from your new SMSF.
    With an amount of $11,500 it would be far better for you to consider ( if you can arrange, eg close family and relatives for example) up to another 3 members (total of 4 at the moment) to add their super individual super amounts to the SMSF that you are considering setting up, thus creating a larger fund to absorb the ongoing yearly investment advisory, tax and audit fees. Note that these fees will apply regardless of who sets up and administers the SMSF for you. The experienced team at Tradebridge360 can arrange very competitive fees and special offer packages for clients.
    Also all the members of the SMSF who are working should get tax advice and consider salary sacrificing to reduce their taxable income and contribute more regularly amounts ( currently taxed at only 15%) towards the new SMSF. so you can see the huge benefits of a SMSF when you have a few members rolling over their current industry funds and contributing more from their salary each month ! The SMSF quickly becomes a sizeable fund for Trustees to manage. The objective is to beat the fund managers, who have not performed in the past 3 years, although they still take out fees... Also you need to stay ahead of inflation and plan for your retirement so you have enough funds to support you and your family to give you a quality standard of living.

    Finally, diversification is the key to successful long term performance and backing asset classes that have the fundamentals to outperform the general herd market and traditional fund managers.

    Please feel free to post any other questions you may have and we will attempt to answer them promptly and accurately for you.

    Best Regards
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  6. moderatortb360

    moderatortb360 New Member

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    Hi Ironman,

    Just to clarify your query...

    The client decides to setup the SMSF, we are administrators and investment advisors. Like all other advisers and administrators we charge fees to ensure the professional services can be provided to the client.

    For your information, the yearly costs are very very competitive compared to others.. for example just $1499 Inc GST - NO hidden costs, for the preparation of the SMSF accounts, lodgement of the return with the ATO and the mandatory yearly independent audit.

    The other comments you have made are inaccurate.

    For your information Tradebridge360 specialises in bridging top traders with investors, globally and provides you with the power to prosper.

    Finally, diversification is the key to successful long term performance and backing asset classes that have the fundamentals to outperform the general herd market and traditional fund managers.

    Please feel free to post any other questions you may have and we will attempt to answer them promptly and accurately for you.

    Best Regards

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  7. Andrew Newman

    Andrew Newman Well-Known Member

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    Hi Moderator

    I agree with Terry about setting up a SMSF with only $11,500.

    Can you please provide some typical returns from actual client accounts and then compare these returns to say cash and Australian shares over the same period?

    That fee works out to be about $6,000 upfront? Is this modest?

    Can you please summarise your initial and ongoing fees for all to see?

    Kind Regards
     
  8. skl

    skl New Member

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    Hi Andrew,

    Did you get a reply to your last post from Tradebridge 360. Maybe they have something to hide and therefore did not reply. I only ask because they have been in contact and it sounds like something to consider if they are a solid legal business.
     
  9. Andrew Newman

    Andrew Newman Well-Known Member

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    Hi skl

    No reply to my last post about what the initial and ongoing fees are.

    Why not consider investing like Warren Buffet.

    Kind Regards
     
  10. ben_efactor

    ben_efactor New Member

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    Some info about Tradebridge360. The guy who manages the company in Bundall QLD is called Dominic Luvara, search "Dominic Luvara+ASIC" in Google. He also calls himself Dom Byron when speaking with customers and prospects. People can make their own opinion after reading the information that's available in the public domain.
     
  11. Redwood

    Redwood Well-Known Member

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    Hi there,

    Not sure if you have proceeded, however, with $11,600 to start an SMSF, you would want to be sure about what your strategy is as well as the costs for the first year. For example, if you set up a fund with individual trustees, is the set up free? if the structure is a corporate trustee the cost is at least $500 (ASIC costs are just under $500), and then consider the admin and compliance costs of the fund. For example, my company charges $1080 a year (link to web in my signature), so you are looking at 10% of your fund value in compliance costs plus the $200 ATO levy.

    I believe it would be prudent to be patient, ensure you understand your obligations as a trustee of a fund, and consider the structure. Once done be sure to document your investment strategy and go ahead!

    I have not dealt with Tradebridge and therefore will not comment on them however, check ASIC and also a check of linkedin.
     
  12. garybowen

    garybowen New Member

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    Tradebridge360 is a complete scam!! Beware!!

    Hi community,

    I used to work at Tradebridge360. These guys are as corrupt as you can ever get!! They are a complete out and out scam as I know this from over 20 people that invested with the company and have lost thousands of dollars!

    They will try and convince you to buy trading platforms and send you convincing emails that it is all legitimate, but the fact is none of their 500+ past clients never ever made a cent from them.

    The owner/director told us all that his name was Dominic Byron, when in fact it is really Dominic Luvara and he is a crook. Simply Google his name and you'll get a plethora of info on the money he owes through corruption and he is still banned for years from directing an investment company.

    DO NOT INVEST WITH THIS COMPANY NOR SETUP A SELF MANAGED SUPER FUND WITH THEM AS YOU'LL LOSE ALL OF YOUR PRECIOUS DOLLARS!!!
     
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  13. The Claw__

    The Claw__ New Member

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    It looks like the final chapter on Tradebridge 360 has closed.
    The market has spoken and Tradebridge 360's iron condor don't fly. The company has been wound up.

    NOTICE OF DEEMED SPECIAL RESOLUTION TO WIND UP A COMPANY
    Company: Tradebridge 360 Pty Ltd
    https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....48222431/76427ec7-24de-4627-990e-2fecaf62e34a

    NOTICE OF SECOND MEETING OF CREDITORS OF COMPANY UNDER ADMINISTRATION
    Company: Tradebridge 360 Pty Ltd
    https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....48222431/8adae755-9608-4e80-8926-92dc23ffdad4

    No more pushy telemarketing calls. No more ordinary punters losing money to this scam. Good riddance Tradebridge 360.